East Haddam School
Building Committee Meeting
October 12, 2005
Adopted October
26, 2005
The meeting was called to order by Dana Barnes at 7:03 p.m. at the Nathan Hale High School - Room 117.
Kerri Willis Budzik
Melissa Ziobron
Denise Gable
Dana Barnes
Mary Beth Mordecai
John Gibson
David LaFemina
Member absent:
Todd Moss
Others present:
Allan Burr
Dave King, KBA
Bob Carroll, Board of Education Business Manager
Josh Mrozinsk, Middletown Press
Old Business
Motion by Kerri Budzik to change the order of the agenda by moving
Construction Management Services Solicitation to 7.5 after Other
Discussion. Seconded by John Gibson and
passed unanimously.
Architect Report
Dave King
informed the Committee that there was a meeting with Bob Carroll, Dr. Durham
and the Kitchen staff to help with the layout of the cafeteria. He stated that the plans had been revised
and another meeting has been scheduled with the food service director with
regards to specific equipment which will be needed. He informed the Committee that a meeting with technology has been
scheduled and that the Borings/ Geotechnical work would be performed soon. He informed the Committee that a draft
traffic report had been received and that it would be reviewed for compliance
with the RFP. He stated that the Civil
Engineer has sent an application to the DEP and that KBA is currently in the
design and development phase of the project.
Mr. Barnes requested that the septic plans include additional analysis
for the potential of expansion.
Mrs. Budzik expressed the Committee’s appreciation for Jennifer Mangiagli’s attendance at the Special Meeting for conducting CM interviews. She stated that her attendance showed the commitment that KBA has to the project. Ms. Mordecai questioned Mr. King if were to use a consultant when should the company be hired with regards to the septic. Mr. King responded that is could be decided upon at the next meeting.
Craig Parker informed the Committee that he had been contacted by CL & P. He questioned Mr. King, how to respond to them as to when rebates and power would be needed. Mr. King responded that with regards to power, it could occur in the next few weeks and in regards to rebates in the next couple of months. Mr. King informed the Committee that the new code for design has become more astringent which will provide a more efficient building. Craig Parker stated that the School Building Committee had entered into contract with KBA several months ago and questioned which code he was referring to. He responded that it was State Code which would be adopted into the project. Craig Parker questioned if there was another Connecticut State supplement, beyond 2003 to BOCA. Mr. King responded that there will be another Connecticut supplement written to the IDC. Craig Parker questioned when. Mr. King responded end of the year or the first quarter of next year and that it is all based on when the permit is submitted. He stated that they would be able to pick portions of the old code and the new to fit the project.
BOE Report
Melissa Ziobron informed the Committee that the Board of Education Members had requested reassurance that if any changes were to be made to the Educational Specifications, that it be brought to them prior to implementation.
Approval of Minutes
Motion by Mrs. Ziobron to table the minutes until the next scheduled
meeting. Seconded by Mr. Gibson and passed
unanimously.
Audience of Citizens
Allan Burr questioned how much of the land which is being acquired is State reimbursable. Mr. King responded that the State will reimburse the portion of land dedicated for the school which is approximately 30 acres. It was stated that the Town did not want to acquire the best portion of the land and leave the undesirable portion to the land-owner. It was stated that the referendum was worded that a specific acreage be allocated for the School, Open Space and Municipal use. Mr. Burr questioned how the school would affect traffic in the area. Mrs. Ziobron responded that a traffic study was being performed and the Committee was awaiting the report.
Bob Carroll informed the Committee that based on his experience with an asbestos abatement project; local approval of plans must be ADA compliant with the health code. He expressed concern that this could hold up the project. Mr. King stated that the local approval of the plans could prove to be a difficult task based on the scope of the project and recommended the Committee consider hiring a consultant to consult with the local officials. He informed the Committee that the Consultant would be compliant with the Schools Facility Unit and they would review the documents making the approval process progress smoother and more efficient. He stated that the cost would be approximately $5,000 to 6,000. Mrs. Ziobron questioned Mr. King as to how many more Consultants would need to be hired to get through the building process of the school. Mr. King responded that if bones were found on the site then an archeologist would need to be hired, but besides that he did not think any others would need to be hired. He stated that in some communities the local official does not feel comfortable approving such a project and would go out to get a Consultant and that this cost would normally be passed on to the project. Craig Parker stated that the Committee is looking at an aggressive schedule and in order to meet the schedule, there are certain options ahead for the Committee. Ms. Mordecai questioned if the upfront costs of Consultants could create a savings on the other end of the project. Craig Parker responded that a move in date in the summer/fall verses the winter could translate into savings on the project
New Business
Mrs. Budzik informed the Committee that Todd Moss had received the Traffic Study and had attended the Board of Finance Meeting. She stated that Mr. Moss would update the Committee at the next scheduled meeting. Mr. Barnes requested that a time line item be added to the agenda under old business.
Determination of Next Meeting
The next scheduled meeting will be October 26th, 2005 at 7:00p.m.at the Hale Ray High School, room 117.
Construction Management Services
Solicitation
Mrs. Ziobron wanted to confirm that the information should be discussed in executive session. Mrs. Budzik referred to the Connecticut General Statutes. It was agreed to enter into Executive Session. Josh Mrozinsk expressed his concern that information which was discussed during a Public Meeting should not be discussed in Executive Session. Committee Member’s assured him that this was not the case.
Motion by Craig Parker to go
into Executive session at 7:34 p.m. inviting Bob Carroll, Dave King and Ruth
Ziobron to attend, for purposes of discussing Construction Management Services
Solicitation. Seconded by Mrs. Ziobron
and passed unanimously.
Motion made by Mrs. Ziobron to come out of executive session at 8:19 p.m. Seconded by Mrs. Budzik and passed
unanimously.
No action was taken or decisions made.
Mr. Barnes questioned Mr. King if he had
worked with Pike or Newfield in the past.
He replied that KBA has worked with Pike as CM and Newfield as General
Contractor. The responsibility of a
Construction Manager in the State of Connecticut was discussed. Mr. Gibson questioned if a Construction
Service Company is chosen and comes over budget, is the Committee responsible
to keep the contract. Craig Parker
stated that this is why the Construction Manager and the Architect work
together and that the Committee would be under contract with the Company and
responsible to keep the contract. Committee
Members reviewed the special meeting answers to the questions for Cm as
Constructor interviews. Market
conditions were discussed. Craig Parker
stated that the Construction Company would solicit for bids for each
sub-contractor and then the Committee Members would approve the individual
companies. He stated that these numbers
would be the same as any CM would get if going out to bid. Budgeting was discussed.
Craig Parker stated that the purpose of
getting a Construction Manager now is so that they can work in close
conjunction with KBA to get the project within the referendum dollar amount and
to keep the schematic design phase in line with the budget. He stated that the design has to satisfy the
Educational Specifications and the objective is to stay within the referendum
number. He reiterated the importance of
deciding on the Construction Manager now in an effort to try to stay on
budget.
Ms. Mordecai stated of her concern of the
project not coming in on budget due to escalating prices of materials. Craig Parker stated that the budget has an
escalator of 2% a year over 2 years equaling 4 %. He stated that the final negotiation of the AIA contract could
take a while. Mrs. Budzik questioned
Mr. King if there would be some benefit for a Company to know the Connecticut
SFU process for forms and change orders.
He responded affirmatively.
Motion by Mr. Gibson to retain
Newfield as Construction Manager in accordance with the specifications to be
worked out by the Committee. Seconded
by Mrs. Ziobron and passed unanimously.
Craig Parker stated that the referendum
indicated a completion date of January 2008.
The cost difference of opening earlier was discussed. It was stated that the next step would be to
finalize the contracts, insert the KBA language and have Attorney Bennett
review the contract and negotiations.
Mrs. Mordecai stated that the bottom line difference between Newfield
and Pike is $577,000. Mr. Barnes stated
that the Committee could discuss with Newfield the option to finish the project
earlier. Committee Members agreed that
the bottom line dollar difference was a significant factor.
Motion by Ms. Mordecai at 8:56p.m. to adjourn. Seconded by Craig Parker and unanimously
passed.
Filed at Selectman’s office
Attendance